Saw It On Social: Frank & Eileen

Jul 2, 2024

Yes, the long awaited review of Internet darling Frank & Eileen is here. Does the must-have, phenomenal, life-changing shirt live up to the influencer-fueled hype? Let’s find out.

If you are over the age of 30, your social media feeds have no doubt been bombarded by the Frank & Eileen popover.  It’s showing up in ads.  It’s showing up on your influencer must-have lists.  It’s showing up on the woman you went to college with who always looks a little too put together for a mother of three kids.  

Frank & Eileen is a woman-owned brand that prides itself on creating sustainable styles.  It touts its 15-year track record of making soft knits and button ups designed to make women feel and look great.  And when you order from them, you get a cute, little, heart-shaped tea bag of surprisingly delicious Irish Breakfast Tea.  It’s the little things.  But alas, not even the tea could make me love this top.

Before I ordered the signature Popover Henley from Frank & Eileen, I consulted their online size guide.  Just the week prior, I had taken my measurements to order a new suit, so I knew exactly what I was looking for.  And according to their website, I needed a size large.  

But this didn’t feel like the right answer.  Not because I’m in denial about the depth and breadth of my early-40s body but because looking at the photos of influencers I know who are close to my size, they were all wearing mediums.  But the website was sure that the piece ran true to size, so I was about to play online retailer roulette.  Given that the description also said the piece was “slightly cropped” and a “relaxed” fit, I decided to trust my gut and order the medium.

Shirt ordered and in the trust hands of UPS, I went on about my life for a week while I waited for it to arrive.  But when I opened the box, I took one look at the shirt, and knew it was going to be too big.  And also, frustratingly, too short.  

As a long torso’ed gal, the “slightly cropped” shirt that hangs to pocket length on the model hit me at the waistband of my jeans.  Every time I raised my arms, I was showing my midriff to anyone present.  And the fact that the shirt was also too big just made it look schlumpy.

When I tell you that I was seriously disappointed, I mean it.  A natural skeptic, I usually don’t buy into the social media hype, but I wanted to love this shirt.  I wanted to write this post about how it changed my life.  How I now owned four.  How you should buy one for yourself, one for your best friend, and one for your Mom.  She birthed you, she deserves it.  But nope, that post exists only in my imagined memories.

On the plus-side, I will tell you that the material was nice.  Not as soft as expected, but 100% cotton and on the heavier side.  I ordered a dark color, but I imagine the white would also be opaque due to the heaviness of the material, a rarity these days.  I also appreciated the cuppa tea that came with the top, like I said, the little things.  But that is all of the good news that I have to share.

If you’re not long torso’ed, your experience will likely be very different.  But the cut of this top did not work on my body at all.  I don’t want to look wider, or shorter, or schlumpier.  Go figure.  And I don’t want to spend all day fighting with a collar that won’t stay up, even though it’s popped in all the photos.  I have a toddler for when I want to fight battles I can’t win.

Bottom Line. I think Frank & Eileen looks like a great company.  I may try one of their button up shirts in the future, but the life-changing, must-have Popover Henley style did not work on my body type (at all).  I thought about exchanging the medium for a small, but with it also being so short, it doesn’t seem worth the effort or the potential second disappointment.  And while I accept that the shirt is supposed to fit in a more relaxed way, I am seriously frustrated with clothing brands whose size guide is as untrustworthy as the guy with the fast car you dated in high school.

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  1. Sarah says:

    I love your blog. For so many reasons. Including honesty and humor.

  2. linda says:

    Sizing gets me at so many online retailers! I appreciate how resale places like Therealreal include important measurements. I wish the original sellers would do the same

  3. Megan says:

    I was so excited to try two of their dresses — the Daphne and the Lauren — but had similar fit issues. The Daphne (long linen dress) was too tight in the shoulders despite being sleeveless and the Lauren (short cotton dress) had an extra four inches around the hips on me. Disappointing, because they are such cute dresses on the models!

  4. Meaghan says:

    I had the opposite issue when I tried this shirt last year – the size I ordered was way too small. I have several items from F&E, and their sizing is all over the place. However, I will sing the praises of the Mary dress until I die. I have one of the cotton stretch ones, and the other four (I know) I have are various colors of the denim. I am 5’3, and according to their size chart, I should be a small or a medium, but the XS fits great and that is at least consistent across the same item.

    I have also bought a few of their Eileen shirts off poshmark, and I like them, but for the love, I have never owned shirts whose plackets wrinkle as badly as F&E. To bring it back to their wildly inconsistent sizing, I take a xs in the Eileen shirt (and it’s comfortably loose) but need a M or L in the Barry (more fitted, but still). You really just have to order several sizes in a new item and just know you’re going to eat the return shipping cost.

    • Jenn S. says:

      Isn’t that a bummer? If the issue is resulting from their size chart being drunk, you shouldn’t have to eat return shipping. Alas.

    • Belle says:

      I need brands to start posting the measurements of the actual garment. Net-a-Porter does this and it is a god send.

    • Kate says:

      OMG yes. LOVE the Mary dress, have a shirt that wrinkles like no other, and WTF on sizing.

  5. jules says:

    ugghhhhhh why is everything slightly, if not fully crop length nowadays? I have the world’s longest torso (I’m not particularly tall, either) and I do NOT want to be showing midriff at almost 40 😅. I don’t want ridiculously oversize either. What happened to the normal length shirts where are they!!!????

    • E says:

      I’m extraordinarily short-torsoed despite being tall (seriously, I’ve started getting the bodice taken up on my dresses because it’s so bad) and even I am running into midriff baring tops which has never been a problem for me in my entire life!

    • Jill says:

      Another long-torsoed person here. Cannot pull off the short and wide trend. Looking forward to its end.

  6. Kelly says:

    I am in the process of returning the second of two shipments of jeans I tried from an online retailer. Not only was the “we’ll tell you your size” function laughably off, the actual measurements were buried deep in the website, and their pattern grading puts their largest size of jeans about 3-4 sizes smaller than what I’d expect.

  7. Lynne says:

    I have waffled on buying their khakis with the fringe bottom but the price seems so high for such a pant!!

  8. Colleen says:

    Don’t sleep on the Mary dress. Is it ridiculously overpriced? Yes. Do I wear it nearly every week? Also yes.

  9. Pam says:

    i haven’t tried F&E shirts; but discovered the brand because I was sitting in a business class airline lounge looking at what a woman was wearing (sweat pants and a sweat shirt with combat boots); taking surreptitious photos; then madly googling to find matching images. I bought the Aspen triple fleece travel set (Effie and Love it. It is all cotton, unique style and comfy. Expensive, yes.

  10. Lauren says:

    This was a great ‘Saw it on Social’! I’ve long worn Frank & Eileen after I was initially introduced to it a decade ago by my mom who is an exclusive boutique shopper. While the price point is much higher than I’d like, I find that I wear the heck out of their clothes. Sizing really is totally different based on each style, but if you can find a small shop (doesn’t seem like Spokane has any unfortunately) that carries their product, it’s well worth trying some pieces on to find what works for you.

    As others have said, the Mary dress is in *heavy* rotation for me, I wear the Frank when I want to look polished and the Joedy more casually. I’ll pull the trigger on a travel set in a moment of weakness within the year, I imagine. They look so chic despite being so casual on everyone I see wearing one!

  11. Tessa Wilkin says:

    My sister discovered the brand during her pregnancy as the sweatshirts (Effie and Olive) were great for maternity. She then gifted me two Effie sweatshirts – gray and black – and I love wearing them. I like that they don’t have a tight waistband and the tight sleeves help balance the loose body. But I agree on the sizing – my early 40s body is a size 8/10 and the size small Effie fits well.

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